Forgiveness, Healing and Consequences – Thoughts on James Gunn’s tweets

The firestorm that is raging on social media and in the mainstream media in regards to the pedophilic, violent and disgusting tweets (10,000) and links to pedo blogs, by director James Gunn is unprecedented. Many Hollywood celebrities are deleting their own old tweets, and/or closing their Twitter and social media accounts.

Many confused people are ‘pedo-splaining’ that James Gunn’s tweets are old, they are ‘jokes’ and that those who are outraged at the tweets (10,000 again, on sex with children) are the ones to blame (not him) for him getting fired from directing the next ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ movie.

Many say, he only wrote words, he did not do what he was writing about, and should not be held accountable for mere words.

Glenn Beck has even gone so far as to tweet:

  • @jamesGunn I will stand for you. We all make mistakes, we must come together as each of us grow and change. Forgive others in hope that they will forgive themselves and others too. Reach beyond your comfort zone and be kind. You don’t need my forgiveness J.G, but I offer friendship

No one to my knowledge has accused him of actually being a pedophile, but they have rightly outed him for his obscene (and illegal, see below) words. The talking point of his defenders (and there are many, surprisingly) is that he should not be held accountable for old ‘jokes.’ These same people were among those shouting the loudest for Roseanne Barr to be fired for her own ‘joke.’ This is hypocrisy at its highest form, to have gone after Roseanne like rabid dogs for what they said was a racist tweet, but to defend Gunn by going after the messengers with threats against them and their children(!)

His friends and defenders say that his words were only ‘jokes,’ made a long time ago, and should not be used against him. He is to be forgiven by everyone, and allowed to continue to work closely with children.

Forgive, heal and move on, they say.

Let’s be clear. This is not real forgiveness. This is not forgiveness in the Christian sense, or in any sense other than fake forgiveness. Healing does not come from fake forgiveness.

Actions have consequences. In this instance, tweeting the words James Gunn tweeted are his actions. Although the tweets are being described as ‘old tweets,’ he never deleted them, and they remained on Twitter for many years.

Many more of his colleagues, friends, main stream media, and apologists have leaped to his defense, and have downplayed the horror, and loudly blamed those who believed he should have consequences for his actions.

The story being told by most media is: Director James Gunn fired from ‘Guardians 3’ over old tweets.

There is a movement in the US, and worldwide, to ‘normalize’ pedophilia. It started with the abomination of NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association, of which the vaunted Allen Ginsberg was a member), and this vile organization has been marching in Gay Pride parades since the beginning of the parades. This has morphed into pedophiles rebranding themselves as MAPs (Minor Attracted Persons), and they are demanding to be included under the LGBTQ umbrella. Some confused people are trying to call pedophilia a sexual orientation, and an unchangeable one at that.

  • Violating the vulnerable, in action or word, for your own sexual gratification is not an ‘orientation’ any more than being a ‘rapist’ is an ‘orientation.’ Its not an act of love, it’s deviant behavior and destructive of other’s lives at that. (Thanks to TheAnt)

We must push back on this until these lies and deceptions have been totally eradicated, and every child protected. The vulnerable and voiceless need us to do this for them. Mike Cernovich, Liz Crokin and Jack Posobiec are fearless champions who are leading the charge, they began this by exposing the vile tweets of James Gunn, and others.


We must, of course, forgive James Gunn, forgive even those who have groomed, hurt, molested, raped and murdered children, and forgive everyone who writes about it in offensive, ‘joking’ ways. But at the same time we must also be completely intolerant of this behavior, and there must be consequences (severe) for their actions. Not only for James Gunn, but for everyone who has indulged in posting obscene, illegal, tweets that contribute to the ‘normalization’ of pedophilia.

The words he wrote, and kept on his Twitter page are, by legal definition, obscenity. And these obscene words he shared with the world, and with children who are on Twitter and could read his tweets, are illegal. He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, not ‘forgiven’ of these crimes, as his defenders are using the word forgiven, which means no consequences, the offenses cancelled, move on, peace out.

And, of course James Gunn, and the others, should be forgiven in the true meaning of the word, before during and after, the punishment for the crime of Obscenity Involving Minors. 10,000 tweets. Forgiven because that is the right thing to do, forgiven as God forgives our sins, when we’ve confessed and repented, forgiven as if we’d never done them, and we never do them again. But we cannot shirk from the consequences of our sins, we must face them full on and pay the price that is required, even though we’ve been forgiven for these sins.

Federal law on the illegality of obscenity is clear and unambiguous and covers ‘jokes’ about raping children. These jokes, on Twitter, are distributing obscenity involving minors on the internet.

The U.S. Supreme Court established the test that judges and juries use to determine whether matter is obscene in three major cases: Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 24-25 (1973); Smith v. United States, 431 U.S. 291, 300-02, 309 (1977); and Pope v. Illinois, 481 U.S. 497, 500-01 (1987).  The three-pronged Miller test is as follows:

  1. Whether the average person, applying contemporary adult community standards, finds that the matter, taken as a whole, appeals to prurient interests (i.e., an erotic, lascivious, abnormal, unhealthy, degrading, shameful, or morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion);
  2. Whether the average person, applying contemporary adult community standards, finds that the matter depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way (i.e., ultimate sexual acts, normal or perverted, actual or simulated, masturbation, excretory functions, lewd exhibition of the genitals, or sado-masochistic sexual abuse); and
  3. Whether a reasonable person finds that the matter, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

Any material that satisfies this three-pronged test may be found obscene.

Further: Obscenity Involving Minors – Federal statues specifically prohibit obscenity involving minors, and convicted offenders generally face harsher statutory penalties than if the offense involved only adults. Section 1470 of Title 18, United States Code

We must be the voice for the voiceless, champions for the vulnerable, and protectors of all children.

And by prosecuting obscene speech, we are protecting righteous freedom of speech.

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